Having finished the book I have all sorts of things to blog about, but our contributions have really fallen off this last month. Have we lost steam? Are we still interested in this forum?
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Monday, August 31, 2009
Saturday, August 22, 2009
Prayer Request
Hi guys. I want to invite you to be in prayer for one of our SABA churches. This Sunday, and again on Wednesday evening, there will be important meetings that will inform the future of this congregation. At this point, I will not say which one, but ask you to pray for repentance, wisdom, and courage for the leaders and members of this church.
Thank you!
Jeff
Thank you!
Jeff
Monday, August 17, 2009
I've finished the book! And...
I'm finished with the book now and am ready to post a gazillion things. But I'm wondering about our overall level of interest in discussion. Have we "lost steam"?
Maybe give me an idea of who's still interested in this discussion and we can go from there...
Dale, since this was originally your idea, do you have a specific vision of where you'd like this to go? Have we been asking the right questions? Your input would be great in steering us as well.
REV
Maybe give me an idea of who's still interested in this discussion and we can go from there...
Dale, since this was originally your idea, do you have a specific vision of where you'd like this to go? Have we been asking the right questions? Your input would be great in steering us as well.
REV
Friday, August 7, 2009
Atonement fights brewing?
On page 65 (2nd ed.) under the sub heading "What 'Good News'?" Camp takes aim at penal substitutionary atonement. Something that has been going on in the scholarly world of late as well. Some (like NT Wright) are re-thinking atonement altogether. Others (like Scot McKnight) are arguing for a robust and very full golf club bag. Still others (like John Piper) are going on a seeming "heresy hunt" to defend penal substitution only.
First, where do we bloggers fit into this? Secondly, shall we join with Camp in going on the offensive against this understanding of atonement? He seems to be rooting his understanding in relational terms, redemptive terms, and Christus Victor terms.
Some have predicted that atonement understandings are the next big fight in evangelicalism. Undoubtedly biblical authority and homosexuality and other issues are down the pipe, but for now some are saying atonement could be the next big thing to divide us. Open theism v. Reformed theology came very close in the providence debates of the BGC a decade ago. Are we on the verge of another showdown?
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First, where do we bloggers fit into this? Secondly, shall we join with Camp in going on the offensive against this understanding of atonement? He seems to be rooting his understanding in relational terms, redemptive terms, and Christus Victor terms.
Some have predicted that atonement understandings are the next big fight in evangelicalism. Undoubtedly biblical authority and homosexuality and other issues are down the pipe, but for now some are saying atonement could be the next big thing to divide us. Open theism v. Reformed theology came very close in the providence debates of the BGC a decade ago. Are we on the verge of another showdown?
REV
Tuesday, August 4, 2009
The community
I'm now into the latter stages of Camp's book on the baptizing and communing community. While he's got great theological/spiritual stuff, I'm still really really struggling with the practical steps to take to "get there." I really need him to stop being a scholar for a second and help me as a pastor to know how to move my flock in this direction.
What do the rest of y'all think about this? Has anyone finished the book? Does he get more practical?
REV
What do the rest of y'all think about this? Has anyone finished the book? Does he get more practical?
REV
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